Why not Titanium

[10Ring]

Tiki (www.sviguns.com/1202.php)

[50gi-jess]

Well, difficult things takes time....and the next to impossible....takes a little longer...
Jess

[10Ring]

Well, difficult things takes time....and the next to impossible....takes a little longer...
Jess

I'm sure GI is up to it. Would anyone pay, that is the question?

[AutoCar]

Caspian arms makes titanium frames, about $200 more if I remember correctly, 7 oz savings?

My concern would be durability.

I'll be staying with steel thank you.

[10Ring]

Caspian arms makes titanium frames, about $200 more if I remember correctly, 7 oz savings?

My concern would be durability.

I'll be staying with steel thank you.

You are right about the price. However... (www.titanium.com/titanium/tech_manual/tech2.cfm)

[fennecfrank]

from another foum, the earlier version of the Strayer-Voigt Infinity TIKI 1911 was carried by Colin Farrell in the film version of Miami Vice (2006) that cost $6,000.

<IMG>http://i825.photobucket.com/albums/zz174/BK56/MISC/Crockett_svi_tiki.jpg</IMG>


reply from Infinity Firearms regarding Tiki:

All of our products are custom built to the specifications of the customer.

Our current lead time is around 12 months from the time we receive a deposit of $1k.
General Tiki Information
Barrel Lengths:
Officers 3.9in
Commander 4.3in
Configuration:
Hicap
Single Stack
Materials :
Full Titanium Slide, frame, and components with tool steel rail inserted frame and slide Approximate Cost $9700.00
Carbon Steel Approximate cost $4500
Stainless Steel Approximate cost $4750
Aluminum Frame with Stainless Slide Approximate cost $5250
Calibers:
9mm, 9x21, 9x23, 38 super, 38 super comp, .357 Sig, .40 S&W, .45 ACP : Suggested Calibers: 9mm, .40, .45
Do not suggest longer cases such as 10mm or 9x25
Weight is Caliber dependent, All weights are in the Officers configuration, These weights are with an unloaded 113mm magazine. Capacity in 9mm is 16 rounds and 11 rounds for 45.
Titanium Tiki Officers Approximate weight in 45 ACP 25oz
Carbon Steel Approximate Weight in 45ACP 32 oz
Stainless Steel Approximate Weight in 45ACP 32 oz
Aluminum Frame with Stainless Slide Approximate weight in .45ACP 25oz

As shown in photo#161 the approximate cost is $6000.00 with one magazine.
7075 Aluminum Hicap Frame with Tool Steel Rail Inserts,
416 Stainless Steel Slide,
45 ACP Hybrid AET Barrel (multiple calibers available),
Infinicoat Jet Black Finish

[10Ring]

from another foum, the earlier version of the Strayer-Voigt Infinity TIKI 1911 was carried by Colin Farrell in the film version of Miami Vice (2006) that cost $6,000.

<IMG>http://i825.photobucket.com/albums/zz174/BK56/MISC/Crockett_svi_tiki.jpg</IMG>


reply from Infinity Firearms regarding Tiki:

All of our products are custom built to the specifications of the customer.

Our current lead time is around 12 months from the time we receive a deposit of $1k.
General Tiki Information
Barrel Lengths:
Officers 3.9in
Commander 4.3in
Configuration:
Hicap
Single Stack
Materials :
Full Titanium Slide, frame, and components with tool steel rail inserted frame and slide Approximate Cost $9700.00
Carbon Steel Approximate cost $4500
Stainless Steel Approximate cost $4750
Aluminum Frame with Stainless Slide Approximate cost $5250
Calibers:
9mm, 9x21, 9x23, 38 super, 38 super comp, .357 Sig, .40 S&W, .45 ACP : Suggested Calibers: 9mm, .40, .45
Do not suggest longer cases such as 10mm or 9x25
Weight is Caliber dependent, All weights are in the Officers configuration, These weights are with an unloaded 113mm magazine. Capacity in 9mm is 16 rounds and 11 rounds for 45.
Titanium Tiki Officers Approximate weight in 45 ACP 25oz
Carbon Steel Approximate Weight in 45ACP 32 oz
Stainless Steel Approximate Weight in 45ACP 32 oz
Aluminum Frame with Stainless Slide Approximate weight in .45ACP 25oz

As shown in photo#161 the approximate cost is $6000.00 with one magazine.
7075 Aluminum Hicap Frame with Tool Steel Rail Inserts,
416 Stainless Steel Slide,
45 ACP Hybrid AET Barrel (multiple calibers available),
Infinicoat Jet Black Finish

Very interesting. Unfortunately, it is not on the California Approved list.

[fennecfrank]

Very interesting. Unfortunately, it is not on the California Approved list.

That's right, but it's too expensive anyways. BTW, waiting eagerly for the court to abolish the stupid california approved guns.

http://www.hoffmang.com/firearms/pena/Pena-v-Cid-complaint.pdf

can't wait to get HK95, HK P30, MK 23, Les Baer .38 super, and especially GUNCRAFTER the AMERICAN

[50gi-jess]

Hi all,
Just got back from a wonderful trip and IDPA match in St.Louis.
Just read a little from all the other websides related to 1911' etc. O'he boy, how everything is becomming more and more "contaminated" by emotions instead of fact's. Self created 1911 experts....hate even saying that word.
What many gun owners don't understand, is that higher prizes don't always mean better products. 90 % is based upon second hand knowledge, and not from personal experience. Someone new to the whole thing, pick up on the "experience" and "insight" from existing "experts", that have been on the sites for years, and around and around we go. Facts and feeling are mixed up in one big cluster, and only few have extensive first hand experience in the first place.
I could easily go on and on about the whole topic, but know you all know, why I have given up on participating on the various 1911 forums. Had gotten so many PM's from so many people, thats why I'm writing this, and stick to this nice website most of the time.
Weeeeel, just wanted to air this out of my system, and hope you'll all understand me and where I'm coming from.
Later guys, Jess

[10Ring]

Hi all,
Just got back from a wonderful trip and IDPA match in St.Louis.
Just read a little from all the other websides related to 1911' etc. O'he boy, how everything is becomming more and more "contaminated" by emotions instead of fact's. Self created 1911 experts....hate even saying that word.
What many gun owners don't understand, is that higher prizes don't always mean better products. 90 % is based upon second hand knowledge, and not from personal experience. Someone new to the whole thing, pick up on the "experience" and "insight" from existing "experts", that have been on the sites for years, and around and around we go. Facts and feeling are mixed up in one big cluster, and only few have extensive first hand experience in the first place.
I could easily go on and on about the whole topic, but know you all know, why I have given up on participating on the various 1911 forums. Had gotten so many PM's from so many people, thats why I'm writing this, and stick to this nice website most of the time.
Weeeeel, just wanted to air this out of my system, and hope you'll all understand me and where I'm coming from.
Later guys, Jess


Glad you are staying here, as one of the real experts. To quote Elmer Keith,"Hell, I was there!"

By the way, I don't even care for titanium firing pins. If someone spent a fraction of the price of the Tiki on practice, I am sure he would do well with any decent pistol.

[AutoCar]

Exactly my opinion of "gun writers". Instead of talking about your opinions, let's hear your experience, you know; ever been in combat? , how about a gunfight?, ever shot anybody, been shot at?.

I thought so,.........now we're down to a very small handful of people that know what they are talking about. The late Jim Crillo for example.

Okay, rant off, back to our regularly scheduled programing.

[10Ring]

Exactly my opinion of "gun writers". Instead of talking about your opinions, let's hear your experience, you know; ever been in combat? , how about a gunfight?, ever shot anybody, been shot at?.

I thought so,.........now we're down to a very small handful of people that know what they are talking about. The late Jim Crillo for example.

Okay, rant off, back to our regularly scheduled programing.

Interestingly, I have been held at gunpoint(Colt .38 Detective Special) by a "little old lady" when I was twelve. I was on her unfenced front yard looking at a bird in a tree, when I was 12. I was shot "over' according to the shooter(.30-06), at age 15, when I was "too near his property" while archery shooting. This time I was hunting with my father. He was afraid I might damage his house with arrows. Apparently Californians are very property conscious!

By the way, I believe carrying a gun can often prevent a gunfight, not that I have ever had the opportunity to carry.

[AutoCar]

Using my criteria, 10Ring has more experience than the majority of gunwriters. Couple that with his ability to find detailed technical information on gun related subjects puts him right at the top of the class.

Living in California is going to severely limit the guns available for him to test.

So, once again, move out of California ! !

[10Ring]

Using my criteria, 10Ring has more experience than the majority of gunwriters. Couple that with his ability to find detailed technical information on gun related subjects puts him right at the top of the class.

Living in California is going to severely limit the guns available for him to test.

So, once again, move out of California ! !

No tempting required!